God help us and our children!!!

I'm indifferent to the whole thing. It really doesn't effect my day one way or the other, but @Gina.... one thing for certain is that your children will be far more acceptable of it than you apparently are. It's either that or they'll have to go to some dark corner of the planet.

This state is in total chaos. Politicians will spend unending taxpayer money to buy votes. There is no one representing those who disagree as only the corrupt are represented in this state. We are a national joke and disgrace.

I am with you jose!!! However, people seem to be running down the road to destruction and cheering all the way

We invite you to move.

Terri- What's the point of your link?

All men are not created equal, as for God he leaves choices up to us and only watches to see what we will do and kicks our butts when we have gone too far.

"I have Gay friends who are couples and been together 25plus years and Straight friends who are on marriage #3 ,what happened to "Till Death Do Us Part!!" I guess you lied while taking your vows!!!"

and there are gay couples who got married in states allowing homosexuals to marry each other and they are ALREADY divorced.

did they lie while taking their vows? did you not consider that point before adding the exclamation marks?

Reubear, "CAN I HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON WHETHER YOU CAN MARRY OR NOT!!!" has to be the dumbest, most idiotic statement I've heard since BO said he would cut the deficit in half. Your straight friends who are on marriage #3 probably in fact support gay marriage and therefore have no respect for the sanctity of marriage

Liberals feed off of division, without it they die. Without the groups they cater to, there would be no liberals since there is no ideology that defines them. Reason number one why the President is all out of ideas on our economy after the stimulus left the chamber.

McCloud The Election is over. Your got suggestions e-mail him

McCloud- http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/22/news/la-ol-mary-cheney-same-sex-marriage-dick-cheney-happy-20120622

I agree with Dick Cheney. So what is your point?

http://www.christianpost.com/news/dick-cheney-admits-politics-prevented-him-from-supporting-gay-marriage-79107/

Hey Mac, stick to the point instead of changing every single topic into a commentary about Obama. Or is that all you know? Yes, I believe that's it. You don't know anything else so you have to stick to the topic of how awful Obama is. You really need to get out of the house more.

"Relax and worry about real issues...like debt, taxes and North Korea. Jeez."

how ironic.

that's exactly what i would tell the president. who, btw, has NOBODY on his staff who is an expert on Korean affairs and made a big point back in 2007 to tell us that he would not allow North Korea to gain nuclear capabilities.

"..I'm guessing most or all of you haters "

typical liberal talk. if you disagree with something, that makes you a 'hater'.

While I agree with Dick Cheney on this, I respect the opinions of others who have their own values attached to their feelings. Frankly the entire issue is a political tool. as I described above. Liberals would rather use this issue to divide people, while our budget mushroom clouds and business leaves the state driving unemployment up with a no growth agenda, I'll post my link again, for those who want to face facts.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-viewpoint/021213-644194-obama-growth-record-is-worst-in-60-years.htm?p=full

@Dan, I didn't ID you as a hater, necessarily. The fact that you disagree is your right. There are some on these boards that are nasty about this opportunity to bring equal rights to the LGBT community. This bill guarantees the right for any religion to refuse Gay marriage, so that excuse is invalid. Marriage can be a civil ceremony. People that don't even believe in God have the right to get married. Even a murderer on Death Row can get married. But not a Gay brother or sister? Beyond religion, it gets down to a bigoted attitude toward Gays. Diversity is good. The Constitution guarantees that everyone is equal. It does not say some people are more equal than others.

Thanks for the link. Called mine encouraged her to VOTE FOR IT.

Me too! Call or write your representative asking them to okay marriage equality. The bill clearly allows churches to refuse to participate. Marriage is a civil ceremony. Heck, they do drive by marriages in Vegas. Weddings are performed on Death Row. 50% of straight marriages end in divorce. The 'institution of marriage' will be strengthened by more people who love each other being able to get married. Denying our Gay brothers and sisters the right to Marry is wrong.

@RB Churches today can refuse to do Straight Weddings and Gay Civil Unions

Moe, you got me laughing, man..

Yes, i know 'haters' is a term pretty much started by ESPN'ers. However, i do see a lot of people pull out the 'hate' card with those they disagree with.

I'm looking forward to bellying up to the bar at your gay friendly establishment. Now let me go check the cup and see if my teeth are clean yet.

Burt, what sicko pre-school do you o to that teaches any sex?
And what is it you are so afraid of?

Attn Patch: I think it is time for you to "PULL" ALL comments ever made by RB. I don't agree with them nor do we feel this persons adds any constructive to this board
Allowing this individual to continually post comments and state facts that only an insane individual could ever conceive makes me believe in my professional opinion. That this person, is in desperate need of medical attention.

RB Needs Mental Attention...Whomever you are...probably Burt...needs to go back to eighth grade. Your "professional opinion" reads like a child wrote it.

Good job, Jacob

Really people, don't worry about what others do behind closed doors. I don't spend any time thinking about my straight friends' sex life. Sure the parade is over the top, and I've always argued detrimental to the cause, but just don't go if you don't like it.

Our kids will be just fine. Making same sex marriage legal doesn't make more kids gay. We won't be teaching anything about a gay lifestyle other than tolerance, and we should be teaching that for all things. You don't have to like how someone lives his or her life, but unless it directly affects you, let it go. There is absolutely no way two men or two women marrying one another is going to have an impact on my life.

I firmly believe that 90 percent of the overly aggressive, anti-gay people would change their minds if someone they loved was gay. Once you know and love a gay person, you'll see they are no different than a straight person.

I'm not really sure how you're putting those words into my mouth. Since no answer was provided, I'll supply it for you-

http://247wallst.com/2011/08/25/the-states-with-the-highest-divorce-rates/2/

I'm saying that the states with the highest divorce rates are the states where family values are touted the most (touted- not necessarily achieved) and that claim gay marriage will ruin marriage for everyone else. It looks like they're doing a fine job all by themselves without having all those gays spoiling it for the rest. So anyway, who are you to say gays can't love each other as much as straight people? How is that measured? I believe that is an opinion, not a fact. Just as your assertion that they stay married because there are so few is an opinion and not a fact. There is a difference between the two.

Why should God help anyone as narrow, close-minded, and intolerant as you and your equally-minded "Christian" friends? I don't think these are qualities He would particularly be proud of. Why would he reward you for being so non-Christian in your words and actions?

Sure- you can remain ignorant in your walled off compound as much as you like. Doesn't really matter to me. I'm straight, liberal, and have a wonderful family who are neither narrow-minded nor bigoted and use their brains for analytical thought. That doesn't make them liberal- it makes than caring human beings. We are not threatened by the boogie men that haunt your world.

By the way, this "strange" link makes no mention of homosexuals; it simply lists the top ten states for divorce rates. I guess the "wall street" in the title wasn't clear enough for you to understand.

The amount of bigotry and hatred that is prevalent in this thread is equally prevalent in most threads on the Patch. Civil discourse is no longer possible in this country. Insults are the rule. Posters also recommend links that are also filled with hatred, vitriol and "misinformation." These posters seem to enjoy their barbaric treatment of others - and then they call themselves Christians!

I wouldn't get too discouraged. Bigots love to scream, and this is a great place for them to do it. They represent a smaller and smaller portion of the population, regardless of how much they huff and puff and pretend otherwise.

Demosthenes, you are assuming they don't feel the same way about black or bi-racial people as they do about gay ones. Does it make you feel better to know that this thread is not only from Grayslake, so not all of these comments come from Grayslakers. You and your friends are this country's future and soon enough the bigotry, homophobia, and hatred toward one's fellow man due to their differences will die off. There will always be hatred in this country, but I would hope that will be the exception, not the rule.

Yet another contradictory post from you, I'm not angry or intolerant....but all fundamentalists are lazy and stupid. Typical narrow views from the left.

I also said 'most', not 'all'.

Sully why are you such an angry person? You and RB should be the poster children for all that is wrong with this country. I would tell you to get a life and get out of your parents basement. But something tells me you are living in your kids basement.

I'd say the gay room mate was the lucky one. He didn't have to live with your son and put up with intolerance and bigotry.

God forbid the rooomate was a Catholic white male who held conservative ideology from his upbringing, certainly that would be the worst.

Did you have any luck finding an asexual college roommate for your son or did you just have him neutered?

How uncomfortable having a bigoted roommate.

Thanks for your comment. It's sad to read all the fear and hate that comes out of people these days. A lot of people seem to think that if they are in a room with a gay person that they will make them gay as well, or that the gay person will force themselves upon the hetero person. People need to quit flattering themselves. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they will love you and want to date you. And if a guy thinks you are attractive? It means you look good, super. It doesn't mean you are gay also.

If you get back to your room and there is the old sock on the door, you just hang out at your friend's room, like you would if your roommate was in there with a girl. I don't want to walk in on either of them. Worried about what they are doing? Reality check again, there isn't one thing a gay couple does sexually that many hetero couples don't do either.

Using your entire full name on internet forums like this are foolish. Attempting to call people out for the use of a screen name on a forum just means you have no debating skills or have run out of anything worthwhile to say. Hopefully you will wise up.

@Charles, at least you go by your first name.

I disagree with your suggestion that calling people out for being totally anonymous equates to not being able to debate, etc.. I would suggest to you that people who go on a community forum and use names e.g., like 'mr. common sense', etc. are spewing opinions and calling people ugly names because they aren't willing to stand up for their convictions.

@Just

so Just looked me up and Procrustes researched someone else (Evanston Patch). I guess you ladies are right...it's the leftists we have to worry about out there.

Using first name is fine by me..... Suppose could make up a last name like Dan has

You keep bringing up names, how do you know and why are concerned that people who use a first name are actually using their first names? When people have threatened to beat me up and intimate at wishing I would get shot, why on earth would anyone use their full/real name?

@Brian names don't matter here since like you said who knows if its there name or not. Brings it up as a way to get of topic

Lucas: "@Brian names don't matter here since like you said who knows if its there name or not. Brings it up as a way to get of topic"

A way to get off topic? uh, that's just whack.

Listen, my biggest gripe about this is that 1. i have no idea if i'm talking to a man, woman or 13 year old Hindu boy, and yes, i treat people differently considering where they are coming from in life. 2. It's easy to call people racists and haters when you aren't using your name.

As much as the internet has helped us, this anonymity has made us nastier towards our fellow man. or woman. or Hindu boy.

@Dan Arenov that should have been off topic not of topic (sorry) Your correct you don't know who your responding to. Don't even know if they are in this State or Country.

@Dan, you assume way too much about my screen name. I enjoy anonymity on forums. And yes, it is because I want to hide my real identity. If you had worked in the IT field as long as I have, you'd be smarter than you are now with regards to using your real name on public forums. So you just keep on assuming what you do and that's fine by me.

So Dan, does that comment above mean that you would change your stance and/or delivery based on who you are talking to? Why not just assume you are always talking to your peers? If it is hard to tell, then it just becomes a discussion. You're not talking down to a person based on what you prejudge their mental capacity to be.

@Brian. Yes, not my stance, but yes..i definitely use a different tone with women and children.

You believe that pretending that you're always talking to a peer is the best approach, but as you can see by some of the back and forth diatribe, people end up name calling, etc.. and i'm just not going to get into some of that with women and teenagers. Not that they can't handle it, it's just not the way i was raised to behave.

Just Sayin', you're absolutely right. There are a lot of crazies out there who could easily threaten anyone who disagrees with them. Last year and for the hell of it, I googled one of the most virulent poster on the Evanston Patch. I found a ton of information about him and also saw how pathetic he was. He also foolishly revealed a lot about himself on Evanston Patch that made it easy to find him. After all of that, I actually felt sorry for him.

Procrustes' Foil...If it was Richard Schulte you investigated...didn't we all...LOL. I appreciate that you felt sorry for him. He was/is a pathetic sot. I also appreciate your chosen moniker. Perfectly appropriate for this type of communication.

Arenovski... that sounds Ruskie to me. You a communist, boy?

Richard Schulte- now there's a name I haven't thought of in a while. He's probably living in a bunker somewhere eating only canned goods and not taking showers while waiting for the apocalypse to occur. Either that or he's in a nice hospital psychiatric care unit.

Sully....Thanx for the Schulte laugh. My speculation of his current life is a bit more twisted. I see him living in Gibsonton, Fla. aka Freaktown USA. It was/is the winter home of various circus organizations. Many aging circus 'freaks' ( probably great people) retire there. He lives in a single wide with cardboard window coverings and a hot plate. He does eat only canned produce and meat and sleeps on a flea bitten twin size mattress on the floor. He rants and raves but his neighbors, the worlds shortest man and the bearded lady pay no mind. Once a week he consults the one eyed fortune teller. He wants to know when the construction business will pick up and when Obama will die. Laughingly, he is stuck in a Fellini like nightmare of his own making.

DR, I'm sure you are cynical enough that you don't get sick to your stomach when you read about the many social conservatives and celebrities of our time cheating on their spouses by having....sex! As long as it's straight sex you ignore the 'lifestyle'. Infidelity in marriage is an epidemic and you're worried about what two committed individuals do in privacy. Tiger Woods, Rev. Ted Haggard, Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart, Newt Gingrich, all cheated, and you judge.

You can just reply directly to my comment above if it is to be aimed at me. And I fail to see what the lifestyle has to do with any of this. As I mentioned, if two men or two women are in a room together, anything they can and will do sexually can and is done by heterosexual couples as well.

You seem to be against the equality of it and against the act. So not only do you feel that not everyone deserves the same governmental rights, but it seems you also would like to monitor what goes on behind closed doors.

I know you are looking to cause a rise here by throwing phrases and words like "laughing at him" and "gross" but none of your talking points touch on the overall issue at all here. You happily put down others to make yourself seem and feel superior.

I'm sure if this was the 60's and the last miscegenation laws were being struck down you would spouting off the same vitriol about interracial relations. Get over it. Gay rights really don't affect you or me or anyone who is heterosexual.

Dear Field Resident,
What's the lifestyle you talk of? Is it that people are having intimate relationships? Is it just that you think relationships are only about sex? It would seem that the above description has met your requirement of not really knowing what is going on and since it isnt impacting you, not being a concern of yours. But yet you must imagine what is going on, lingering over it, replaying it again and again in slow motion in your head; feeling your hands get a little sweaty and you heart race a faster. Hmmmm... Well maybe you are right; these gays are affecting you.

Who are you to judge anyone else's lifestyle, Mr. Resident (if that is your true name name)? I don't agree with the redneck gun junkie lifestyle in which you are a part. Tolerant, cerebral, and educated is really the norm, so you just don't cut it. I don't think you should be allowed to vote without taking an IQ test. And you certainly shouldn't be able to look at any ladies in a higher class than yourself. Hmm, what other constraints can I put on you because of the way I judge you? Brian? J.S.? What do you guys think? What rights should the ridiculous of this country have taken away?

What you are saying is the same thing though. Two people in love, black and white or two of the same gender. Your argument is the same as what was said in the 50's and 60's. It's gross, societal breakdown, shameful, abomination....You don't want others to be happy because you think it is gross. I don't eat yogurt...i think it's awful...that doesn't make it wrong for others. I wouldn't have sex with a man...not something that would do it for me. That doesn't make it wrong for others. My life stays exactly the same if someone eats yogurt in front of me or someone marries the same gender in front of me.

You want to blame the degradation of society on two people in love. Real good logic. Damn, all this love is tearing our country apart.

When your only argument is that it is "gross," you are swinging at air.

No DR, it's the hypocrisy of your "lifestyle" statement. Cheaters and liers are fine as long as they are straight as far as you're concerned. Are you saying its okay for two women to have sex? That's progress, but your recovery from absurdity is a long road for you.

Deerfield Resident..."Two men having sex IS gross" is not a fact of life. It is merely your perspective. Having read many of your comments in this thread and others I am most fortunate not to see the world from your perspective. I am also fortunate not to have to live in Deerfield. What a win-win for me!

Brian...Great comment!

It is a good thing Resident doesn't use his real name, otherwise, people who know him would find out just what kind of person he is. He'd be fired in a second from whatever job he might have (unless he's paid to call liberal talk radio shows pretending to be somewhat intelligent until he opens his mouth). Resident, you give ignorant small minded idiots a bad name.

That's nice

Yes, and this country voted overwhelmingly for Democratic control. So what does that tell you? It's OK for you and Ernie to get married, Burt.

@Burt FYI: That support has been building in Springfield, too, as evidenced by the Senate vote. Illinois Republican Party Chairman Pat Brady announced his support for same-sex marriage, prompting an attempt by some conservatives to oust him from the party post. That attempt failed. Undeterred by the risk of repercussions, Comptroller Judy Baar Topinka, also a Republican, recently urged lawmakers to "go for it."

Burt...In other words you will be voting the straight "stupid" ticket. And please...let that truly be your final word.

Burt, Illinois is racing to have the absolute worst representative government on the face of the earth. You are just standing in the way of...progress.

Mary...I totally agree. You are right on!

Just, i'm generally a little bit kinder to women in my travels. You can blame my parents for that.. and a little quicker to give it right back to somebody if i believe that they are a man.

I'm also a little bit more considerate when 'debating' a teenager, as they think they know more than they do at that age and tend to be a little bit more idealistic than realistic.

this doesn't mean that i'm going to change my point of view, but i may be less lenient when dealing with men.

We can argue all day long about this, but i am convinced that the internet has made us a nastier nation of people quick to name call, etc. You are certainly proof of that.

Dan, While we may not see ee-eye on most issues, I will say that the anonymity of the internet and postings have made us a much more agressive and less polite society. I think that it also leads to people making wild accusations knowing that they do not have to stand behind them. We have folks on both sides of the aisle (using politics for an example) who will propagate half-truths since they know that it cannot be traced back to them. Lord knows how many Facebook posts I have seen from both Liberals and Conservatives that will say things that are absolutely non-sense... they just hope to feed the frenzy and that some folks along the line will believe and forward it as the truth. I think that the anonymity has also led to folks showing some of their 'real-colors' because they can show a point of view that might otherwise be hidden because it is too far out of the main stream. This can be blantant bigotry and prejudice against all of a race or religion (see Deerfield Resident posts in this string for a perfect example of this) or death threats against Rush Limbaugh.
I try to post things under my psuedonym exactly as I would if I were writing under my actual name. But to the point someone else made, even then there is still some fear that someone out there crazy enough to push a discussion too far to the point actual physical harm to my family. That's probably why even you used a variation of your actual name.

but that said, Dan, my parent also brought me up to be very polite. I still say Sir and Ma'am to most all I meet. I try to open doors for those that may need it and yes, I do still give my seat up on the train if a woman doesn't have one (most of the time). I would say that the other part of the internet is that it is the great unknown and begs for people to treat others equally to start. you don't know if the person is man, woman, millionaire, food-stamp recipient, laborer, executive, gay, straight, democrat, republican or independent. Hopefully it allows us to treat others as equal to start with... which is really all that most of the discussion of gay rights is about. My sexuality has nothing to do with whether I should be a boy scout or can pick the life-partner of my choice and receive the same rights as others who have also picked their mate. For the most part (except for Deerfield Resident) that sexuality should not impact you at all.

Mr. Tibbs, i enjoy reading your comments even though we often disagree.. i try and treat women and the elderly the same way you do. And yes, after seeing that at least two people here, that i get into disagreements with, have tried to look me up to see where i live, etc.. i would agree that some level of anonymity is necessary. You can see in this thread that one of the posters has looked for my phone number and keeps asking me to post it. Why? It's not because she wants to call me to invite me for drinks or something.

Wow. I hate women?

Just, i did not use the term 'ladies' as derogatory. Your reading comprehension skills are sorely lacking. I believe it was YOU who took being called a lady as derogatory.

If you are a lady, as i presume, i'm not sure why you would take offense. If you are a man (doubtful), i would tell you to iron my shirt.

Dan Arenov...If that is your real name. Let's see..." when are you ladies going to come out of the closet". Are you trying to tell me that was a compliment? Are you trying to tell me that you think everyone who uses a moniker is a woman...when clearly they are not? No...you are inferring weakness not to stand-up for convictions. You are equating women (ladies) with being deceptive and weak. Listen bud...I have spent enough time around my pals to know to what you were inferring.
Other than mass and muscle all the women I have known...starting with my grandmother and mother and sisters are the stronger sex. Yeah...try again to tell me you were not being derogatory moron.

Just: ".. Are you trying to tell me that you think everyone who uses a moniker is a woman...when clearly they are not? "

Who can tell? i certainly can't tell by your name, the way you write or from your viewpoints. You say the same things in the same way that many women around here do. And that is your prerogative!

Dan Arenov...If that is your real name. Exactly how thick are you? I do not know that is your real name. I do not know if you are male or female. I do not know if you are a little old lady or a Hindu boy. I do not know if you have two legs or one. Are you a guy who wears lipstick and panties to relax or a 16 year old barista who can't get my order right. The point is...IT DOES NOT MATTER. The only thing that matters are your thoughts and ideas and how you express them on the Patch. And...considering that you choose to express them on the Patch, of all places, means they don't really matter that much after all. Get over it.

@Just.

listen, don't get your panties all in a bunch about the moniker thing. YOU are the one who decided to post with total anonymity on the internet and choose a name that is gender neutral, let alone the most copied moniker online.

And posting at Patch? yes, i post here and do blogs here.. I also post on NYT, WaPo and Politico some, but this is where the fun is...nasty Illinois liberals who want to blame Republicans for Illinois' problems.

Perhaps

Jimbo... Take a look at the high death rate and average age of death in predominately Muslim countries. Your comment is fear mongering nonsense.

absolutely correct. Many of these disagreements are going to look a lot different when Sharia law rules the land.

Think you need to check your figures.

Dan, when one declares the U.S. will be under sharia law, one has totally "jumped the shark".

Dan, Care to tell me when Sharia law will take over the U.S.? or for that matter, what will cause it to supplant the constitution?

right on! this 'everything is ok' society is being driven by the 'everybody gets a trophy' generation.

You are not predjudiced, you are just plain stupid. Deerfield truly would be a better place without you. "I hate Muslims and what they're about" My guess is you have no idea what Muslims are or what they're about because you choose ignorance over education. Your parents have failed and you as a parent have failed, if you have kids in the deerfield school system as I do, I certainly hope they don't speak with as much ignorance as you and if they do, they are doomed to an ignorant backwards life such as yourself. You are not someone who stands and fights for whats wrong, rather you are a coward who uses hate to cover up the fact that you are uneducated and ignorant. I'm sure we could take the word Muslim out of your sentence and substitute, "Jews, blacks, hispanics, gays" and your feeling would be the same. Yeah, now come back at me and tell me crying telling me you really don't hate everyone, just Muslims, and my guess is you have never met or spoken to one.

Are you going to revive the Deerfield chapter of the KKK? They feel the same about Muslims. If you loved your children you would teach them to love, instead you teach them to hate and fear, like your parents did to you.

So I guess then, the only true American is a white anglo-saxon straight fundamentalist republcan male who has an arsenal of automatic weapons and who's little woman stays in the kitchen and keeps her mouth shut and head bowed. In other words, the ignorant and uneducated. This country IS in trouble.

Sully...Here Here...you nailed it yet again!

DR is NOT a typical Deerfield Resident. Bigots belong in a District with Joe Walsh, not Brad Schneider. At least we learned that DR's bigotry is not limited to LGBT, it also includes a hate of Muslims. Quite a little bigoted household you're bringing upon us, DR. I hope you don't have guns in the home. Move to a warm Southern State, you'll have a few more years to spew your hatred and we'll be rid of another hater. Yes, you said you HATE !!

RB...I do not mean to pick on Deerfield and the good folks who live there. I only pick on Deerfield in the context of this Resident dufus.

Many Americans view the Republicans backing up a Catholic university's stance on issuing contraception as a 'War against women'. Just wait until Sharia law starts making inroads in the USA.

I also wish that the clergy in the catholic church would stop raping young boys and covering it up.

McClown...It's probably been years and years and years since you set a woman on fire. But I have to say...the way you get all fired up about the President it certainly appears you have a not-so-secret crush on him. Barack is probably wondering who sent him that extra special Valentine.

@Just Sayin That was good LOL

McCloud, your statement is quite similar to me saying "I wish conservatives would stop killing black people" or "I wish Republicans would stop beating their wives". you try to link a behavior to an entire group of people that are not as homogeneous as you portray them. Usually, statements like this are the result of ignorance, fear and a lack of actual facts.

and Dan, again with the Sharia law? is there evidence or facts you wish to enter into the discussion or just trying to spook the uneducated masses?

"and Dan, again with the Sharia law? is there evidence or facts you wish to enter into the discussion or just trying to spook the uneducated masses?"

No. no evidence, just a hunch based on how the ACLU operates and how it seems as though we have been catering to Muslims since 9/11. And hey, take it with a grain of salt...ask anyone of these people on here and they will tell you that i am part of the great unwashed, uneducated, masses!

One, Gay's don't to choose to be gay. Two, Hitler and Nazi's are not all German's and Al Quida are not all Muslims. You're very narrow minded.

Boo hoo... "I lost 2 friends in 911".... boo hoo... "my mother bla bla bla".
You think you are the only person who has lost people to tragedy? Cry me a river you whining little person. And incidentally... the Nazis/KKK never did march in Skokie. After they won the right to, they chose not to.

Well said RB, I would bet if you asked him if all of the pedophile priests adequately represent Christianity, he would say no.

I too knew several who were killed on 9/11. Intellect, however, tells me that generalizing all Saudi Arabians because Saudis were the majority of the hijackers is unjust. I know some people in Deerfield too. I don't think they are idiots just because you are.

Right, just like not all al-qaida are terrorists just some. Why all the generalizing?

The opposite is true, though- not all terrorists are al quaeda. Plenty of Americans are terrorists in their own right.

Not all SS members committed atrocities, not all KKK members burned effigies, why compartmentalize?

"Boo hoo... "I lost 2 friends in 911".... boo hoo... "my mother bla bla bla".
You think you are the only person who has lost people to tragedy? Cry me a river you whining little person"

THAT is insensitive and offensive. Yes, many others have suffered loss; does that mean we don't give consideration to those who mention it?

Who is so pathetic that they would sign up for another username just to mock another poster?

See? that's the kind of stuff i'm talking about. That's what the internet has done for us.

Hysterical !!!

I suppose Dan hasn't noticed the other names being usurped in not so subtle ways. Did ya furgit 'bout them other 'uns, Dan, or did ya not figger out they was fakin?

Yes it did, bigots and bully's.

lot of blood in shark infested water.

Rich was a stark raving lunatic. If he's back, and posting, he's on meds. Meds can't help stupid crazy, but they can help make one calmer when ranting.

RB, did Florida really change their UI benefits? 12 weeks is not enough for anyone to find a job in this economy unless you are willing to move to North Dakota.

Dan, sorry got my Southern States confused...North Carolina recently went to 12. Florida dropped to 19.

@RB...didn't think they would be able to do that in Florida without a couple of riots. North Carolina? I can see it.

eh.. no. But i'm starting to think that lucas, Sully and RB are the same person.

i remember a few years back at the Northwest Herald...there was one lady who had 10 different aliases. Crazy whackjob liberal...we called her Sybil, no matter which one she posted under.

Nope just lucas no one else

Yep. Just Sully, all the time. It's hard for small minds to realize that more than one person may not believe as he does.

Was that the war where the Senate voted 99-1 in favor, including former Madam Secretary and the current, who served in Viet Nam, Secretary? Didn't the US help Muslims in Bosnia, in Afganistan, and in Iraq? I could understand their hatred from a certain collateral damage done to an aspirin plant the day Bill Clinton was impeached. Actually their hatred goes back to the end of the second world war.

That's the one! Similar herd mentality taking over the GOP right now.

"..free the Iraqi people from their electricity and running water .."

I'll have to pass that one along to my liberal daughter. That's a money line, right there...not that i agree with it, but..

Don't forget that Bush also let the Bin Ladens who were in America leave the country before being questioned by authorities.

Really Dan? I guess they were living it up like vacationers in Hawaii, right?

Herd menatlity? The GOP has moved so far to the center, I consider them Democrats. Spending bills and tax bills the GOP has turned liberal.

Sully: "Really Dan? I guess they were living it up like vacationers in Hawaii, right?"

Sully, unlike yourself, i sometimes agree with those who i typically disagree with or give them credit for making a good point. You may want to re-read that post again before you spew.

Just, you are a whackjob, you know that? Here you are telling me about how it's smart to be totally anonymous on the internet so you can be as nasty to anybody as you want without fear of repercussions, and then you are asking somebody repeatedly to post their phone number. Ma'am, i don't think you are my type. I'll keep my phone number to myself, thank you.

Dan Arenov...If that is your real name. You believe that those who post using anything but there given birth name do not stand up for their convictions. If that is so...and Dan Arenov is your actual name and you are so naive and imprudent to do so then why stop being imprudent? If you will use your real name...but you won't reveal your phone number THEN YOU TOO DRAW A LINE OF ANONYMITY.. Your line is simply different than others...and that, oh thick headed one, is my only point.

Dan Arenov...If that is your real name, Here you complain on and on about how the internet is corrupting how people communicate...and you call people whack-jobs?
Don't complain if you can do no better...oh thick headed hypocritical one.

Right over his head, J.S!

Dan- "sarcasm" - look it up.

I believe the term "nasty" is generally used by the female gender more than the male. Hmm.

Dan, you do know that you have solidified the stereotype of the angry scared "Amurican" relying on others to tell you what to think because you can't make a judgement for yourself, right? Comedians make jokes about you because you are just too ridiculous. I'd say use your common sense, but you obviously don't have any.

Also, if you know many homophobes, you'd know that if they didn't have self-shaming, anonymous, public-restroom rendezvous, they would have no rendezvous at all.

Moron.

Oliver...that was a good one!

@Oliver P. McCracken you mean foot tapping Larry

Amen, Dan!

I apologize for getting into it with Just Saying and getting off topic, but do not apologize for any gay jokes. Like ethnic jokes and jokes about our nationalities, i believe that it's ok to poke fun at ourselves and our differences.

How meany divorces has Newt gone through? How many of those divorces illustrated Newt's infidelity? Family values? Good one!

With Obamacare forcing Catholic institutions to fund contraceptive and abortion benefits, why would anyone trust Washington DC?

I remember the jokes and didn't see how you made fun of yourself or your differences. You made offensive comments in the form of something you thought was funny. Homophobia is not funny whether its in the form of a 'joke', a lynching on fence post, a beating or a denial of visitation at death. It comes in all shapes and sizes and for some it's so ingrained that people don't even realize they are homophobic.

Dan, you are making fun only of those that you find different and not at yourself. You think it's funny to make condescending jokes about gays or any other group you don't like? How about the mentally impaired? Downs Syndrome? Do you "poke fun" at them too? How about autistic kids. They're pretty funny, right? What parent wouldn't get a kick out of a supposed adult laughing at their kids? What ethnicity are you, Dan? I'm sure I could get a real hearty laugh out of you if I poke fun at your religion, ethnicity, level of education, or political affiliation. Right, Dan?

Dan, With Catholic priests raping children over and over for hundreds of years, why would anyone trust Catholics? Abortion bad, sodomizing boys and massive cover ups good, sounds like you've got your head on straight.

Steve: "Dan, With Catholic priests raping children over and over for hundreds of years, why would anyone trust Catholics? Abortion bad, sodomizing boys and massive cover ups good, sounds like you've got your head on straight."

Steve, can you show me where i said that i condone the coverups of the Catholic church? No, you can't because i don't. It's a travesty. I have friends who have left the church because of that and i don't blame them a bit. Criticize me for what i say, not the things you assume i believe in.

You're not kidding. For sheer lunacy, this is the thread that keeps on giving.

It's a close second with Deerfield Resident, don't forget about that peach.

Sully...you've got your second, third and fourth.

I nominate Sully & RB as the most offensive posters on this rag! OK now we can move on.

Geez RB...and here I was trying to forget about that peach.

Oh yeah...well I nominate Sully and RB the two more intelligent posters on this rag. Go bite yourself.

Oh. you mean because i actually apologized for something and that i actually have the ability to say i didn't know something and may be wrong about something?

Sully, you are the last person who should be talking about being offensive.

time to move on and PASS THE BILL

Then we can find out what is in it! How many fees and penalties or taxes I guess they call them.

@McCloud fees for license and party already got it planned

I didn't see anything about Guns, Obamacare or Taxes in this bill

Don't forget to shut the door when you leave. This kind of ignorance is a detriment to our society.

There you go again with the abortion issue. Is there a wave of pregnant rape victims out there? Obscure at best, but enough for liberals to use to justify murder.

Wow... I am surprised McClown did not include in his comment that Obama is personally responsible for all women being raped since the beginning of time. He must be giving the custom 'Obama' key on his keyboard a break. Or...the next few hours will tell if the key has been broken from over use.

Actually when Obama was a senator he sponsored a bill that mandated doctors to turn their back on a botched abortion, a new born baby gasping for life. He probably should a strangle clause into the bill, as this would be more humane, you know, like putting a struggling bug out of it's misery.

@McCloud Illinois or US Senate. did you check your facts? This the Huckabee story?

Are you saying this is not true?

@McCloud those were QUESTIONS DO YOU KNOW THATS WHAT A ? MEANS

RB, you are truly offensive. Can you at least try to be civil with people you disagree with?

Dan Arenov...If that's your real name. You call me a whack job and you turn around and ask others to be " civil with people you disagree with". Then you have the audacity to call RB and myself hypocritical ? LOL. Like I suggested up north...you need to take a good long G damn look in the mirror bud.

Wow. what hypocrites Just and RB are.

Clever Lou, clever.